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looks like the only debt compromise on the table hits the big three really hard. but feel good about the fact that tonight john boehner was having pizza with the tea partiers. the folks that say they won't sign on to anything. congressman kucinich calls the plan a raw deal. he's here and he's fired up tonight. this is the ed show, let's get to work. >> all of the candidates are going to have to demonstrate they can do all of the job all of the time. >> tim pawlenty is taking cheap shops at a republican front-runner. tonight i'm going to defend michele bachmann. >> i'm not going to allow anyone to take a pufrmg at me. >> alan west refuses to apologize for his sexist remarks. today he says she owes him an apology. where's the outrage? >>> if you thought the defense of news corp. was odd, wait until you hear bill o'reilly's stance. >>> the president first tried to sell his plan to nancy pelosi and harry reid. and then the obstructionists came over to the white house. boehner and mk skon el. they have to convince members of their party to accept over a trillion dollars in revenue i
to democratic aides, a debt deal without tax increases is reportedly moving forward. tonight, the big three remain on the chopping block. democrats need to understand cutting the big three in any way is a disaster. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> democrats still say no deal without taxes. the tan man can't control his tea partiers. meanwhile, religious and civil rights leaders are personally urging the president not to cut the social safety net. reverend jim wallace met with the president. he's here tonight. in "psycho tk" el rushbo is pushing another democratic conspiracy theory. and congressman allen west voted to cut social security for his constituents and for some listen he's still attacking debbie wasserman-shultz. >> 80%. 80% of americans do not want washington to lay a finger on medicare and medicaid. that's a heck of a number. you know the nfl is about ready to do a deal. if some nfl coach said my quarterback is going to hit 80% of his passes this year, they'll say holy smokes, we're going to win the whole thing. that is a huge number. this just isn't democrats. it's
"morning joe." now time for "the daily rundown". >>> big disappointment on the job front. employment stalled, unemployment rises to 9.2%, stock futures dropping big-time on the news. the president will address the numbers later this morning. >>> no deal yet, but president obama and congressional leaders will work all weekend and instead of barbs we're hearing words like "constructive" and "productive." optimism abounds as a deal is truly in the works. both sides seem prepared for seergs concessions. what do these jobs numbers mean and will they hold up a deal as it gets rid of a lot of other issues at this point? >>> and with outside groups set to pour millions into the 2012 race, what's an incumbent pro president to do? is fighting fire with fire the answer? it's friday, june 8, 2012. >>> also this morning, waiting the final shuttle launch. will weather clear in time? and we've honored a departed friend you've invited into your living rooms for decades. >>> this jobs report, we thought the big news today would be the debt talks, but a stunning jobs report, gain of just 1
ever gets to the point where he's really going to cut the big three. i do give the president a great deal of credit for fighting the republicans like this and standing up to them. they're a reckless party and they don't care if they have another financial meltdown in this country. this is one of the most un-american things i think i have ever seen play out by a political party. president obama is putting politics aside. it's time for the republicans to do the same. i mean, when the president says this may sink my presidency, he's willing to have that happen as long as it saves the country financially. for once, for sure, we can turn to washington and see that there is someone and it happens to be president obama who's willing to put country first at the stake of -- at the sake of possibly losing his base in a very important election cycle and it may, of course, jeopardize his re-election. he's got 77 people in the house who signed on a resolution saying no cuts to the big three and willing to go to war with them as well to save the economy. where are the republicans? for the latest o
not be willing or able to, seemingly, take on big tasks. >> that happened all this week. kristin is live at the white house. a lot of talk. we're one day closer to that deadline. what can we expect to hear from the president in the next hour? >> hi there, richard. we expect the president to continue to push to get a big deal. what's a big deal? about $4 trillion in deaf sigz reductions over the next decade. at the end of last week, it looked like he and speaker boehner were moving towards the same page in terms of trying to get a big deal. that fell apart over the weekend. so we expect the president to resume calls for a big deal to say now is the time to seize the moment. there will be political pain on both sides. what he means by that is the democrats will have to come to the table over entitlements, making small changes to things like social security and medicare and the republicans will need to come to the table in terms of rolling back tax break for wealthy corporations and americans. as you said, richard, he's going to hammer this point that they will continue to work until they g
today? >> this wouldn't be the big deal if this is the only day, but this is day after day the spring into the summer. then let's pile on a top of humidity. that gets to the people and aggravates everyone. this is where the center of the heat is. right over the top of the eastern half of the country with the exception not being up in the great lakes. this is already the heat index. what time is it? it's 10:00. we are at 105 already in louisville. areas of memphis, nashville and st. louis are right behind. the worst has been centered over the ohio river valley and southern indiana. later today, this is my forecast heat index. this is how hot i'm predicting it's going to get. the worst is up here with the dew points at the highest. we are thinking 110 in louisville, 110 in nashville. i've got my money on 115 in memphis as the hottest heat index in the country. it goes from oklahoma city to the east coast. this is one of the first humid days we had from new york to deep, deep baltimore, raleigh. you go down the coast with no exceptions. this is historic in oklahoma city. we now had 13 da
's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that nothing besides the final deal can pass. meanw
of different ways. by the way, this is no big secret, it's not like i'm telling you something other people can't figure out very easily. but if you have one phone call another phone it creates a busy line. if you use a third phone to call in, it goes directly to the voice mail and if you don't have a pin, it's very easy to get somebody's voice mail. >> we talked about at&t. how vulnerable are they to getting hacked and do we need to make pin numbers mandatory in order to keep all of our phones safe? >> i think that's something to think about. right now the onus is on the consumer, it's on us to be proactive with our mobile devices to put that pin on there. you think of your smartphone these days. it's really like a small laptop. in my face it's almost as big as a laptop. but you store so much personal information on there that really the companies should be doing more for users, i would say, because they're such an extension of ourselves. because there's such critical information on there. you know, i don't want to single out at&t too much because all of the wireless carriers are aware that th
with the big debt talk. congressional leadering returning to the table this morning, after the grand bargain broke down last saturday and a tense 75-minute meeting last night failed to move negotiations forward. at 11:00 this morning, the president will hold a news conference to press publicly for his big deal. yesterday, his top economic adviser said the u.s. is out of options. >> we make 80 million checks a month to americans, 55 million people on social security benefits, millions more americans on veterans benefits, medicare, medicaid. people who supply our troops in combat. on august 2nd, we're left with cash on hand and the cash we take in. there is no credible way to give congress more time. there's no constitutional option, there's no delay option, there's no creative financial option. they have to act by the 2nd. >> no constitutional option, 14th amendment, off the table. here's what we know, debt talks appear to be at an impasse and here's why. the president is still pushing a big deal. democrats say the fallback plan, this $2 trillion plus package that was partially negotiated in
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put into legislative language with only 13 days to go
because of the economy. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes down the road a bit and to the long-term maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years. certainly as you know in simpson-bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles. in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and dealing across the board with all items of expenditure. they said in the near term, meaning the next year or so we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy obviously as we saw today which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse not better. in the short-term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short-term. there is no doubt, however, that in the white house yesterday or thursday there was -- that was yesterday, there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us. and it demanded that all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over th
. and carney saying that tomorrow is a big day and everybody has to either come to an assessment that we can do a significant deal and they were talking of course of the $4 trillion deal until the republicans pulled the plug on that last weekend, and they have to come in friday, and friday is shaping up to be something of a deadline, and meanwhile, tim geithner, the treasury secretary up on the hill behind closed doors talking about the senators of a doom and gloom scenario is nothing is done by august 2nd, and the united states has to begin to default as carney and other white house officials call it hypothetical and insists that the country will not default and some arrangement will be made, but it is not clear what the path of the arrangement may be before august 2nd, tamron. >> and what about the report that the president was mulling over a bipartisan meeting at camp david and there is a quote at nancy pelosi saying it is not a good idea many her opinion, because the rsvps have not been released as politico pointed out, but what is story here? >> well, everybody is backing away from somethi
leaders are digging in on the big sticking point of taxes ahead of tomorrow's white house summit. chuck todd is nbc's chief white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown." chuck, we've heard a lot from republicans. today at the bloomberg breakfast it was said that any tax measures had to be revenue positive over the long run that could be ten years out. eventually have to contribute toward deficit reduction. that is not what republican senator john cornyn was saying exactly the opposite what he said on our show yesterday that it has to be revenue neutral. how does the president hope to bridge this devoid? >> reporter: well, you know, they have an interesting tactic here. they believe and frankly behind the scenes so do house republicans believe it will be easier to sell a larger deal that has some things in it that nobody's crazy about on certain sides. whether some trims to entitlements on the democratic side or some of these revenue proposals on the republican side that if it's a large deal, $2.5 trillion to $4 trillion and maybe even $6 trillion in the out years meaning th
republicans. that would offer a big challenge to mitt romney. >> keith, why is at this moment rick perry holding out? >> i wish i could tell you what's going on inside rick perry's head. i think he's probably deciding if he's a legitimate candidate. if he can win the gop nomination. i think he is threatened by michele bachmann. i think she's sort of obviously protects the same type of people that are part of her base, part of his base. there's the question of electablity. if he wins the gop nomination, could he win the presidency? could he beat obama obama? i'm not convinced he could. >> what do you think, john, who would be the builtest threat to barack obama of three? >> i think romney would be the biggest threat. i think perry would come in second and i think that bachmann could would come in third. mitt romney has the organization out there. he has a compelling story when it comes to turn around artists. he turned around the olympics. he turned and massachusetts and turned around -- i think people want a turn around artist. perry has a story to tell about what he's done in texas as f
to ask the big oil companies to give up one dime not one dime of their $4 billion annual subsidy. they have refused to ask big corporations to give up one dime in their corporate loopholes. what we are negotiating with is a group of people who won't compromise. a group of people who have said we want the middle class to pay more taxes so that big corporations can pay less. we want seniors to lose their medicare so that big oil companies can continue to foost on their subdis. that's what the problem is. >> the case that republicans have taken a hard line on talks, at the same time democrats are taking what sounds like a hard line on entitlements. let me read a statement from leader pelosi that says we continue to oppose benefit cuts in social security and medicare. these pillars should not be used a as piggy bank to subsidize tax cuts for the wealthy. are democrats not just as guilty of failing to compromise as republicans are in this case? >> no, absolutely not. what we have said and i think most americans would agree with this is the middle class and seniors should not be asked
for a revenue hike. >> i disagree with that. >> you're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have vote
to raise the debt ceiling. everybody fr everyone agrees. this is big for the republicans. never done before with a long-term budget plan to bring down the deficit. now everybody agrees also there has to be a balanced approach. they agree to $1.6 trillion in cuts and what the president is saying is there's $400 billion in tax subsidies. tax give ways, as al you mentioned, tot hedge fund managers, that we can no longer afford. now if republicans don't buy that, as david brooks said nothing in the new york times, they are idiots. they don't know how to govern. they won. they ought to take this deal. >> mr. brooks, conservative columnists, is saying come on. you are marginalizing yourself. can't even you even hear from your own people that ideal logically agreed with the republican line. >> well, look, reverend sharpton, you showed some polls a minute ago that showed 70 or 8 30ers don't agree with republican owns this or that or the other thing. if the republicans are standing up for their convictions and beliefs against the tide of public opinion, it may be political courage an political decis
very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were pedalling a bid on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under control. but to do that, we have to have some shared sacrifice
, but this is a grave moment for the country. we need to do something very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were back pedaling a bit on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
i'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a ma
the debt ceiling to go up and take cuts to the big three off the table. mcconnell late today put out his last chance plan. >> i would advocate that we pass legislation giving the president the authority, the authority to request of us an increase in the debt ceiling that would take us past the end of his term. that is what he has said. he said he will not sign a debt ceiling that does not take us past the end of his term. >> so mcconnell's plan would allow republicans to vote against the debt increase, but it would allow the president to increase the debt. the downside for the righties? cuts to the big three would be off the table. that's been their mission all along. the tea party jumped all over mcconnell, right wing blogger eric rashgson said mitch mcconnell is making a historic capitulation. consider sending mcconnell a weasel. john boehner is on board with the senate leader mcconnell. he ran over to fox news and did major cya. >> i think everybody believe there is needs to be a backup plan if we cannot come to an agreement, and i think mitch has done good work. >> backup plan? at th
a democratic president at the table willing to make major changes in the big three, to the tune of $4 trillion across the board, and the republicans won't take the deal. it's rather amazing. why? are they afraid that president obama might do well with independent voters? are they miscalculating the fact that the base would be furious with the president if he were to cave in on the big three? and president obama tonight in my opinion is emerging as the most honest broker maybe washington has seen in a long, long time. he openly states he's willing to put his presidency on the line to bring both sides together to get a deal, and the only way he believes that can be done is if some revenue from the wealthiest americans comes into the treasury. and the republicans won't budge. it's amazing, it really is amazing. president obama is trying to make an honest negotiations at the decade. this is what republicans have wanted for decades. they have a democratic president that's willing to do it and they walk? because of revenue? amazing. for more on tonight's meeting, sam young man. white house correspon
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
in this country, if we don't meet our bills, do we get into big trouble, or don't we? some people are holding out and saying, this isn't a problem we can slither through this thing. where are you on that? >> no. i think it is a problem. in fact, you know, we have slowly stair stepped our way into this mess and certainly the gop caucus, right on right crime perpetrated there with the different messages and you know, who's on top of who? who's the leading voice today? done nothing more than muddled the debate for a lot of the american people right now. you're seeing it begin to reflect in the polls. beginning to see it reflect amongst some of the other members of the caucus who are just sick and tired of not getting to a point of resolution. so i think that there are very serious people there beginning to step up with the party on both sides, quite frankly, to move the participants to a point where we can actually begin to get something done. i think, chris, there will be a deal done. the question is, right now, what exactly does it look like, and who's prepared to stand before the american people
of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman michele bachmann's first president
cameron himself. no break in this london fog. give the prime minister a hurrah. i'm chuck todd. the big, brand new nbc "wall street journal" poll, and the revived gang of six which the white house is seizing on to give new life to the president's push for a big deficit reduction deal. the bipartisan group's proposal is still in outline form. they would reduce the deficit by 3.7 trillion over the next decade, cutting discretionary spending, defense spending, overhauling entitlement programs, rewriting the tax code by lowering rates, getting rid of deductions that overall would generate a trillion dollars in those deficit cuts. the plan got an enthusiastic reception from the white house and senate rank and file. watch. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. we have got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> 49 senators came to the room, and you know what, there were no fist fights, there were no -- there was no swearing. >> i think they're creating a vital center on what is the most important issue facing the country. >>
-health clinical toothpaste. life opens up when you do. >>> the numbers are still rolling in but the big 2012 fundraising winner looks like president obama. the commander in chief has set a $60 million goal for this quarter. and michele bachmann is spending some of her money on a new ad in iowa. check it out. >> as a mom of five, a foster parent, and a former tax lawyer and now a small business job creator, i know that we can't keep spending money that we don't have. >> today the obama administration plans to announce two programs to help unemployed homeowners. usa today reports that the program would give people out of work more time to pay their mortgages. and we're less than an hour away from the players going into the cabinet room at the white house to try to figure out a deal to cut the debt. the big headline today, the president has put social security, medicare, and medicaid on the table if republicans will agree to tax hikes. it's an attempt to break an impasse. the president and the speaker have met privately to talk about the deal. let's bring in the editor and political columnist a
're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson boles, senator simpson and former chief of staff irskin boles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over the next 1
>>> big news in washington this morning. one debt ceiling deal appears dead. will a critical meeting later today help save the american economy? new details about how the cia tracked down osama bin laden. the story of one analyst's dogged determination to get the leader. >>> rolling out the red carpet. the british royal company meets and greets some hollywood's biggest royalty. the scoop and buzz from their trip. >>> the 10 million mile man. you're going to meet the guy who just set a new record for the most flights on an airline ever. pretty cool stuff. good morning. i'm thomas roberts in for alex witt today. thanks for joining us. we get right to it. two big issues are making headlines this morning in washington. jobs and the debt ceiling talks. treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on "meet the press" with host david gregory. >> it's going to take a long time still. h is a very tough economy. i think for a lot of people it's going to feel very hard, harder than anything they've experienced in their lifetime now for some time to come. that is because that is the tragic e
big push for the big cuts republicans say they want. if they turn their back on those big cuts, the president is in the strongest position to say they are not living up to their rhetoric. let alone their principles. >> and there is no chance of them accepting any kind of big deal at all because the president is insisting that there be tax revenue increases in there. so the president knows that he is pushing something that they absolutely cannot agree to. so at this point, what the president does seem to be doing is what you just said, is making his position appear to be the one who wants to do the big move on deficit reduction and forcing these republicans to back away from big deficit reduction, thereby, he hopes, neutralizing deficit reduction as an issue against him in the presidential campaign. >> well, look. he's talked about deficit reduction all the way through. but remember, it's not just his position here. it's two thirds of the american public. we have a slew of polls here saying that two thirds of the american people want to see some combination of taxes and spending
obama stead was time for both parties to eat our peace, make tough choices for a big budget deal. today he said without a deal there may not be enough money to send out social security checks. for many republicans in congress, opposing tax has become more than ideology. it's become relation. they're advocating their responsibility to co-govern. how are we ever going to get a deal if republican leaders more afraid of the tea party than it economic collapse to come? >>> also, pray away the gay. michele bachmann's husband says it's not trying to pray gay straight, but there's a different story. this may may michele bachmann more popular with her base, but what after everyone else? >>> plus, the murdoch scandal keeps getting bigger and bigger. gordon brown told the bbc murdoch used known criminals to get access to his personal information and it hit the "sunday times" of london and his company stock is sinking. how bad will this get? >>> jon stewart and fun, a lot of fun, actually, with the murdoch story. that's on the "sideshow" tonight. >>> finally, let me finish with a name synonymous wi
that would have reduced spending by $4 trillion over the next decade. but if mr. boehner wanted to do a big deal, the majority leader eric cantor threw cold water all over it saying that the congressional republicans would reject any revenue increases as part of the deal. as for the president, he said that he is willing to take political hits from his own party, but not at the expense of struggling americans. >> i am prepared to take on significant heat from my party to get something done. i expect the other side should be willing to do the same thing if we are going to actually solve the problem, there are finite number of ways to do it. if you don't have revenues, it means you are putting more of a burden on the people who can least afford it. that's not fair. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. kristen, the president spoke about his willingness to take in his words significant heat from his own party in reaching a compromise, and he was clearly suggesting that the republicans must do the same, but will they? >> well, it is an interesting question at this point the two sid
ahead with a big deal maybe triggered in or staged later? >> i heard what the president said. i don't think business itself is bothered by the debt ceiling deal or no deal. i think what they may be bothered by is the uncertainty surrounding future tax regime that's going to be required to deal with these deficits. however, factoring into the negotiations what maybe somewhat helpful to the president in a slew of numbers that by and large are totally unhelpful is we're seeing the near term effects of cutting back in government spending. it cost jobs. not just in the government sector, but also in knock on private sector jobs as well. >> steve liesman with all the numbers and what that mean. thank you so much. good to see you, steve. republicans using the bad jobs report to scuttle any new taxes in a budget deal. joining me now virginia democratic senator mark warner a key member of the so-called gang of slight, slightly shrunk to five. still hoping senators working for months on ways to reduce the deficit. your quick reaction to the jobs report first and how it will effect the negotia
as you know can happen instantly if some big player decides to sell off. >> obviously i'm not qualified to speak on behalf of the markets and what they will or will not do, but just my own judgment based upon all the various kinds of conversations that are occurring, are that we will find a way to deal with this issue. we do know that the root cause of our debt and deficit problem is spending is just too high. we also want economic growth. we don't want to embrace policies that we sincerely believe will damage the economy and hurt job creation. if you do that, then you lose even more revenues. so what we want to do is get a downpayment on our deficit and debt by getting spending cuts. i think that there are constructive conversations that are occurring both sides of the rotund rotunda, both sides of pennsylvania avenue. i do believe cooler heads will prevail. >>> what are the constructive conversations? for instance, are some elements of the gang of six proposal, i know you said it's not specific enough, it doesn't go adequately to slowing the growth of health spending, but are there co
's headlines about the campaign's big haul and tell you why we're a tad underwemed. >> >> dyou got to check the sel date, it's wednesday, july 13th, 2013. i'm chuck todd, an unbelievable hump day, feels like it's forever bigger here in washington, where i begin my first read this morning. it's the beginning of the end game for negotiations on the federal debt. with pessimism building that leerds will produce a deal and avoid default mitch mcconnell proposed plan c, a contingency, what i like to call the hail mary punt. he set the stage on the senate floor with this pretty rough attack on the president. >> after years of discussions and months of negotiations, i have little question that as long as this president is in the oval office a real solution is probably unattainable. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected that his job was to try to see me beat. i'll have to explain how it is that we're going to avoid default because i'm going to be president here for at least another year and a half. >> right after that interview, mcconnell unveiled this plan c. he would hand over to the presid
that would have included up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. it seems like the republicans talk a big game about solving the nation's problem. but they are really only interested in one thing, that's winning back the white house. mitch mcconnell said this on fox news. >> the most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president. >> that is true. that's my single most important political goal along with every active republican in the country. >> joining me now, is the independent senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. senator, thank you for being here tonight. how do you explain the republicans unwillingness to compromise to get the big deal that they said they wanted, to put everything on the table. the president said fine now they back down. >> what they said is they would like everything on the table. so long as it means cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid, the needs of our children, and the environment. all of that is on the table. but if you asked billion airs it start paying a little bit more in taxes or if you do away with loop
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
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